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Values at Nominal Voltage 12 V

  110147 110065
Leerlaufdrehzahl 10200 min-1 11700 min-1
Leerlaufstrom 45.8 mA 32.3 mA
Nenndrehzahl 7060 /min 5430 /min
Nennmoment (max. Dauerdrehmoment) 6.96 mNm 2.39 mNm
Nennstrom (max. Dauerbelastungsstrom) 0.681 A 0.293 A
Anhaltemoment 23.7 mNm 4.76 mNm
Anlaufstrom (stall current) 2.17 A 0.519 A
Max. Wirkungsgrad 72 % 56 %
Drehmomentkonstante k 10.9 mNm/A 9.17 mNm/A
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  • 492-6 U-Joint, 2 mm shaft
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  • 3 PCS SMD Resistor 1 kOhm 1206
  • PC-Board ROTH Elektronik RE 437
  • Magnet Wire e.g. 30 AWG from Spark Fun
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Shafts, U-Joints, and Gearbox from NWSL

  • 492-6 U-Joint, 2 mm shaft
  • 1150-6 Ball-Bearing 0.3 mod 36-1 IDLER Gearbox 3 mm axle, 2 mm shaft

You can get it from Old Pullman or direct from NorthWest Short Line.

 

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  • Cal Scale HO Headlight PRR Modern #190-235
  • Cal Scale HO PRR Headlight Bracket #190-478
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Cab Details

  • Throttle
    • PSC Oversize #3058
  • Reverse Lever
    • PSC #3260
  • Gauges
    • PCS Dual #3226
    • PCS 4 gauges #3071
  • Brake Control
    • PSC Westinghouse H-6 #3044
  • Stoker
    • PSC Duplex type #3059
  • Seats
    • PSC #3046
  • Valve Control
    • PSC #4884
 
Finished Model

Finished Model

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Steam Locomotive Ultra-Detailing in “O” Scale…PRR I1sa #4390 http://mattforsyth.com/?p=330
 
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BOM

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  • 28mm x 40mm Oval Speaker Gasket Kit, SoundTraxx #810139
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  • Pin Socket 2.54 mm (1/10") 3x2
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  • 2 PCS LED white for headlight and backup light e.g. PLCC2
  • LED red for ashpan e.g. PLCC2 VLMS30J1K2-GS08
  • LED yellow for ashpan e.g. PLCC2 VLMY3000-GS08
  • 3 PCS SMD Resistor 1 kOhm 1206
  • PC-Board ROTH Elektronik RE 437
  • Magnet Wire e.g. 30 AWG from Spark Fun
  • Mounting Tape Tesa 55740
  • Clear 5 Min Epoxy for potting the headlight LED
  • Locomotive drawbar 15 x 8 x 0.5 mm, tender drawbar 10 x 8 x 0.5 mm (brass sheet)
 

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Tender

Color NMRA JST Pin# Function
Black 2 Left Rail Pickup
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Purple - Speaker (+)
Purple - Speaker (-)
Blue - Current Keeper [Function Common (+12V)?]

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Sound Configuration

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Fuel Type   +1+2, 0 Hand-shoveled Coal
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Fuel Type   +1+2, 3 Coal Stoker
 
Injector   +4, 0 Non-lifting
Power reverser   +8, 8 enabled
3-cylinder exhaust   +16, 0 disabled
Articulated wheel-slip   +32+64, 0 disabled
Articulated exhaust   +128, 0 disabled
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Whistle 120 42 PRR Round Top 3-Chime
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Airpump 124 3 (default, cross compound 2)
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Exhaust Chuffs 123 6 Heavy (1)
Airpump 124 8 Dual Cross-Compound
 
Dynamo 125 2 (default, dynamo 3)
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Light Configuration

Function CV Value Type
Forward Direction Enable 57 1+4=5 Headlight Forward & FX3 Enable
Reverse Direction Enable 58 2+4=6 Backup Light Reverse & FX3 Enable
Hyperlight Effect Select 49 15+128=143 Headlight Dyno-light & LED
Hyperlight Effect Select 50 15+128=143 Backup Light Dyno-light & LED
Ashpan Flicker 51 23+128=151 FX3,LED F24
 

Motor Configuration

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Headlight

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Values at Nominal Voltage 12 V

  110147 110065
Leerlaufdrehzahl 10200 min-1 11700 min-1
Leerlaufstrom 45.8 mA 32.3 mA
Nenndrehzahl 7060 /min 5430 /min
Nennmoment (max. Dauerdrehmoment) 6.96 mNm 2.39 mNm
Nennstrom (max. Dauerbelastungsstrom) 0.681 A 0.293 A
Anhaltemoment 23.7 mNm 4.76 mNm
Anlaufstrom (stall current) 2.17 A 0.519 A
Max. Wirkungsgrad 72 % 56 %
Drehmomentkonstante k 10.9 mNm/A 9.17 mNm/A
 

Shafts and U-Joints from NWSL

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RR I1s #4300 in its Baldwin Locomotive Works builders' photo, taken in 1922

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Remotoring United PRR I1s 2-10-0 Decapod
Original Olympia Model
United Scale Models / Pacific Fast Mail PFM #118, '1971-run

Brass Guide

Original open frame motor. It draws about 500 mA on the test stand. Reduction gear 1:28, 45x20x16 mm open frame motor

Prototype
Coreless DC Motor

Coreless DC Motor

Shafts and U-Joints from NWSL

  • 2015-4 1.5 mm shaft
  • 2024-4 2.4 mm shaft
  • 483-6 U-Joint

You can get it from Old Pullman or direct from NorthWest Short Line.

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483-6 U-Joint

Roller Test Stand Videos

Roller Test Stand Videos

Decoder Installation

Decoder Installation

BOM

  • TSU-2200 Steam-2 (2 Amp) Tsunami2 Decoder - Steam, SoundTraxx #884007
  • 28mm x 40mm Oval Speaker Gasket Kit, SoundTraxx #810139
  • Medium Oval Speaker, SoundTraxx #810078
  • Pin Header 2.54 mm (1/10") 3x2
  • Pin Socket 2.54 mm (1/10") 3x2

Docs

Soundtraxx Tsunami2 TSU-2200

Wiring

Locomotive

Color NMRA JST Pin#
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Sorted ascending
Loco Header Pin# Function
Gray 3 3 Motor (-)
White 5 4 Headlight
Blue 6 6 Function Common (+12V)
Orange 7 2 Motor(+)
Red 8 1 Right Rail Pickup
Green 9 5 FX3 (Ashpan Flicker CV 51: 23+128=151, F24)

Tender

Color NMRA JST Pin# Function
Black 2 Left Rail Pickup
Yellow 4 [Backup Light]
Blue 6 [Function Common (+12V)]
Purple - Speaker (+)
Purple - Speaker (-)
Blue - Current Keeper [Function Common (+12V)?]
Black - Current Keeper [Ground?]

Spare

Color NMRA JST Pin# Function
Brown 1 FX4
Green/White - FX5
Brown/White - FX6

Sound Configuration

Function CV Value Type
Sound Configuration 1 112 8 (default)
Fuel Type   +1+2, 0 Hand-shoveled Coal
Injector   +4, 0 Non-lifting
Power reverser   +8, 8 enabled
3-cylinder exhaust   +16, 0 disabled
Articulated wheel-slip   +32+64, 0 disabled
Articulated exhaust   +128, 0 disabled
Engine Exhaust Control 114 90 faster, for 4 chuffs per revolution
Whistle 120 42 PRR Round Top 3-Chime
Bell 122 15 Medium Brass 2
Exhaust Chuffs 123 4 (default, Medium 2)
Airpump 124 3 (default, cross compound 2)
Dynamo 125 2 (default, dynamo 3)
Coupler Select 126    
Poppet Valve Release Rate 200    

Motor Configuration

Function CV Value Type
Low-Speed Compensation 211 150  

Headlight

  • Cal Scale HO PRR Headlight #190-477
  • Cal Scale HO Headlight PRR Modern #190-235
  • Cal Scale HO PRR Headlight Bracket #190-478

Finished Model

Finished Model

-- Peter Schmid - 2019-07-08

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